"I should also mention that Atmos Rewards promised to improve points earning rates for premium cabin tickets on partner airlines when booked directly with those airlines."
But will Alaska bump up earn rates for premium cabins on Alaska metal or when booked with Alaska?
Again, Alaska knocking it out of the park, lately. See, this is actually giving consumers a choice (not the fake 'choice' of unbundling fares, but really just charging more, like DL and UA have done recently, even for business class. Lame.) I'm glad they're keeping distance-based; and that even point redemptions on partners earn status with AS. That was a very pleasant surprise when I flew JFK-EZE in F on AA metal (before they retired 773 F cabin) using AS.
Does the cost paid include seat upgrade? I’ve got a 200 mile flight I bought with points, then paid $80 for a seat upgrade. Which option is best in this case? Thx and yay Alaska!
Ive been hearing anecdotes that J class partner ticketed and operated are now posting at 250percent..but others not.
I have a BA J class ticket later in October.....would love to have clarity on when this actually starts.....
What’s the bonus for elites and business fares if one chooses points per dollar?? Under the current scheme, 99.9 % of the people including business travelers will get more points and status miles with distance than ticket value.
This is just a stop gap until they fully switch to revenue based.
Is the 500 mile minimum going away if you choose distance?
Ben, I'm curious on your take for how award trips and status points via the BoA Alaska Summit and Ascent credit cards might affect the distance vs. spend method to earn status.
Note that Alaska previously confirmed that distance-based earning will not receive any class of service bonus. So if you fly transcon or similar in J, you wouldn't get any bonus vs if you had flown economy.
Also, they said when they announced initially that paid for seat assignment and class-of-service upgrades will earn points under the revenue-based option.
"A majority of passengers spend an average of under 20 cents per mile (Alaska’s average passenger revenue per available seat mile is around 15 cents), so I tend to think the old system continues to make the most sense for a vast majority of people."
does this math hold up, though? that's *available* seat mile, and not all seats are occupied, which means that those empty seat miles are subsidized by the seats actually occupied by pax, which would seem to suggest that those ticket sales are at something of a higher cost basis than the average seat mile revenue in order to balance out the empty seats which earn zero cents per mile
It'd be useful to know what the plan is for Saver fares. This seems to have been left out of the conversation even though main cabin fares are considerably more expensive.
Are they going to provide tracking for all methods of status qualification before we have to choose? It would be helpful to understand where things shake out this year in order to assess whats the best method for next year.
@Lucky, which is better for long-haul J + domestic Y travelers? On the one hand, fare-based could be better, since a $4k (pre-tax/fee) 5k mile r/t ticket would net 20k vs 10k. But, given AS's small long-haul network (and seemingly subpar product), it might be better to choose distance-based and buy partner J directly for 250%, while maximizing awards and domestic AS Y. Any "losses" from occasional domestic F or upgrade purchases would be minor. Thoughts?
How will the revenue method work with partners? Will AS be able to see the fare details of tickets booked on partner airlines?
In the article it says this will be for flights post Jan 1st. I have a trip already book for next April. Will the points I earn off of it be based on what my selection is at the time I purchased the tickets. Since I purchased these tickets months ago will I get distance flown or if I switch to points per $ spent will I earn it based on the price I paid?
I know for any new bookings it would be based on my selection just not sure how it works for flights already booked. For the first year knowing this could have a huge impact on what I end up selecting.
Thanks
How is this more "flexible"???????????????
The current program offer basically all 3 without you having to choose. That's called flexible.
The new program forces you to choose 1 of 3 routes. The only people who benefit are those traveling on company dime and always pay full fares. Everyone else loses. Everyone else get a lot less flexibility
That's also by far and away the worst by-segment earning in the aviation industry requiring 40 segments for silver and 80 for gold. It's insane how bad it is
One additional point that I want to point out is that selecting earn-by-price does not give you an edge in earning the Million Miler status, which is still distance based. Million Miler status plays a critical role in complementary first-class upgrades, and with the lie-flat seats on 737s being rolled out next year, this will only become more valuation.
Just seen this on the Atmos Rewards Update page regarding the enhanced status points rates for partners:
“New partner earn rate
We're making it even more rewarding to fly Business and First Class when you book directly with our partner airlines. Based on your feedback, we're boosting earning rates, beginning when choice earn launches later in 2026.”
I take this as confirmation that the new rates will be effective as of 1 Jan.
Ben-
Do companion passes also accrue status miles via the same 1 point per 20 point rate?
